Doorstop - Lytton, Queensland

Interviewer
Doorstop
Subject
Government support for Australia's refining sector
E&OE

ROSS VASTA MP, MEMBER FOR BONNER: I acknowledge the traditional custodians on the land in which we gather and pay my respects to their elders past and present and emerging. Well it’s wonderful to be here in the AMPOL refinery in Lytton, in my electorate of Bonner. And we are joined by the Prime Minister and Minister Angus Taylor and by Matt. And it's great to be here because we have an incredible announcement. And it's all about the jobs for the local economy. 500 direct jobs here and over 500 indirect jobs. It's an incredible announcement. It's about the future of our country, it's about the future of our fuel security. Without any further ado, we introduce the honourable Scott Morrison, Prime Minister of Australia.

PRIME MINISTER: Great to be here, thanks very much Ross. I am very pleased to be joined by Angus Taylor, Minister for Energy and Emissions Reduction. Also Matt and the team at AMPOL, it’s great to have you here. And Daniel from the AWU, it’s great to have you here. This is a partnership for jobs. The Budget is a plan for Australia's recovery. And recovery is all about self-sufficiency. There's one thing I think that's been reinforced over the course of the COVID-19 pandemic, it’s just so important that we have self-sufficiency. Whether it's in medical supplies, vaccines, or treatments, but also when it comes to things like fuel security. This is an increasingly tough business, margins in the fuel refining business are tough. And we've seen big, large multinational companies over recent years make decisions a long way away from here because of the technology and the upgrades that they put in plants in other parts of the world has meant they’ve made decisions that have impacted us here in Australia. And here in this Budget, under Angus’s leadership, working with the sector, we have a plan to ensure that we can preserve the refineries, these Australian refineries, Australian companies to enable them to continue to operate here with a plan to keep them going out to 2030. Now, it wasn't that long ago I was standing with Angus down in Portland, ensuring that we were keeping that aluminium smelter going. Well, here we are today on a very sunny day in Brisbane, ensuring that we're keeping our fuel refineries operational here and down in Geelong. Fuel security is important not just to ensure the more than 1,200 jobs that are directly employed, both here in Geelong, 550 jobs here, and the many hundreds of contractors that also support the work that takes place here. But the businesses and the others who are part of the economy that make up this part of Brisbane, also significantly supported by the operations here in Lytton. All of that is incredibly important for those jobs. But it's every job that sits in the transport sector, every job that relies on diesel, whether it's in the agricultural sector, the long-haul transport sector. All of these sectors are supported by ensuring that we have a self-sufficient refining industry here in Australia. The plan involves an up to 1.8 cent per litre support payment for refined fuel here in Australia. That’s out over the next 9 years out to 2030. Now, the way it works, I’ll let Angus Taylor explain it to you in more detail, but what it basically means is it supports the refinery and AMPOL here to be able to keep in business to ensure that they can keep the doors open and they can do this on a commercial basis. And the up to 1.8 cents per litre means that it allows the prices to drop and it ensures when there is pressure on prices going up, it takes that pressure off and that means it’s good for your fuel bill when you go to the bowser. It’s all about trying to reduce the cost of living and keep people in jobs and this plan is about doing just that. There are also important parts of this plan which relate to fuel standards in upgrading fuel quality and investing in the infrastructure. You would’ve seen we were observing the keen science that goes into ensuring the fuel standards that exist across Australia. We don’t apologise for those standards. It's important for people's health, and this package supports improving those fuel standards, while at the same time making sure that our refineries remain viable. And there's also support here that relates to ensuring that we have the minimum holding requirements of our fuel reserves in Australia. It’s also addressing national security, we need to be self-sufficient. We need to stand up for ourselves. And this policy, this program, this very significant commitment is ensuring that Australia will be self-sufficient and that's an important part of our economic recovery plan that’s recovering from the pandemic recession and the health pandemic caused by COVID and this is part of Australia’s recovery plan. I’ll pass you onto Angus Taylor.

THE HON. ANGUS TAYLOR MP, MINISTER FOR ENERGY AND EMISSIONS REDUCTION: Thank you, PM. Well it’s great to be here with you, with Ross, with Matt Halliday, with Dan Walton who we’ve worked with very closely throughout this process. This is a great day for fuel security in this country. Of course it’s fuel that keeps our economy moving and it’s fuel that keeps our country moving. And, of course, this is a commitment to our national security, our fuel security, having the fuel available even in the worst possible circumstances in a world that is far less certain than even a few short years ago. It’s a great day for the jobs here at the refinery and the refinery down in Geelong. 1,250 direct jobs and many more indirect jobs that rely on these refineries being in place, but of course, it’s the job of every fuel user. Every truckie, every tradie, every farmer, every commuter, every emergency service worker who relies on that fuel to get their job done. That's what this is all about, their jobs and their ability  to do what they have to do in their jobs every day is what this is all about. And there's a couple of features of this arrangement I want to highlight. The first, is that the payments of up to 1.8 cents per litre depends on the refining margin. As the refining margin goes down, that payment goes up to 1.8 cents, but as the refining margin goes up and businesses like this are more profitable, the payment goes to zero. The whole point here is only to provide support when it is needed for the fuel security of this country. Another key feature is the commitment from the refineries to upgrades of their refining to reduce the sulphur in our fuels. This is absolutely critical to getting moving towards much cleaner fuel to allowing vehicles into this country to use that cleaner fuel and reducing pollution from cars. This an important commitment and it is a part of the overall package. Now, it’s also part of a broader fuel security package. Not only are we providing support to the refineries, we’re putting in place a minimum stockholding obligation, which is particularly focused on increasing the level of stocks for diesel. A 40 per cent increase in the diesel held in stocks in this country and alongside of that, a commitment to increasing the onshore storage facilities here in this country. We haven't had enough onshore storage, we are committing $200 million alongside the private sector to get more storage into place. The combination of those initiatives ensure that we have the fuel we need at all times, including those worst possible circumstances to keep our economy moving. Thank you very much.

MATT HALLIDAY, CEO AND MANAGING DIRECTOR OF AMPOL: Thank you very much. It's great to be here today. This is a very important day for Lytton, for AMPOL and I think for the broader Australian refining and manufacturing sector. We're really proud today to be partnering with the country and the government on the dual objectives of fuel security and energy transition. I think it's a very proud day for our employees, I think it's a very proud day for the broader community. As has been noted, this package enables the protection of 550 jobs here at Lytton and hundreds more indirect jobs. It enables AMPOL in parallel with continuing ongoing refining operations to be developing future uses for the site and protecting critical manufacturing jobs that will play an essential role in the longer term energy transition. AMPOL is a proud, independent Australian company. We play an important role in the local economy and we play a really important role in delivering national prosperity. Accordingly, our discussions with the Government right throughout the last 12 months have been very open and productive and have led us to where we are today, which I think is a fantastic outcome for our sector, for the country and for our company. I'd like to to extend my thanks to the Government, especially to Minister Taylor for the role he has played very openly and constructively in allowing us to reach this outcome and we look forward to continuing to work with the Government in continuing to deliver safe, reliable and efficient operations here at Lytton while we continue to build for the future. 

DANIEL WALTON, SECRETARY OF THE AUSTRALIAN WORKERS’ UNION (AWU): Well, thanks very much. It would probably be very remiss of me not to mention that we rarely share the stage with the Prime Minister and Minister Taylor here today, but we’ve done so for our members. Our 1,250-plus members right around the country are breathing a sigh of relief today because they know that their jobs are secure and that they've got a long term future in to the years ahead. 1,250 employees are very important, but it's also the indirect jobs between [inaudible] companies that  rely so heavily on the refineries remaining open to continue to make the great products they do. It's also important to remember that as a nation, we can't ever lose sight of our sovereign capability, and if we rely entirely upon our borders and our shipping lanes remaining open to provide the crucial fuels [inaudible] we must keep and remember the agriculture industry, the mining industry, the Defence Force, our aviation industry who so desperately rely on good quality fuel, which this site and the site down in Geelong produce. We welcome the announcement today. It's a great announcement by the Government. We look forward to continued work to ensure the viability of this facility, the viability of the facility down in Geelong and we certainly welcome the announcement today.

PRIME MINISTER: Thank you very much Dan. Over the course of the pandemic, everyone who has wanted to support jobs has worked together and I think that’s been tremendous so I appreciate that very much Dan, you being here today and just like when I joined your Union colleagues down there in Portland not that long ago as well. We’re all here for jobs, which is very important and making things, making petroleum here. Yesterday, making steel fabrication in Gladstone and here today making petroleum. We have to keep making things here in Australia. Ok, happy to take some questions. If I could just keep it to this announcement first and then we’ll go to other issues and we can excuse our friends.

JOURNALIST: PM, fuel security is an element of this announcement, [inaudible], are we still exposed as well [inaudible]?

THE HON. ANGUS TAYLOR MP, MINISTER FOR ENERGY AND EMISSIONS REDUCTION: Having two refineries puts us in a position where we can provide the fuel we need from the crude oil we produce for those essential services we need to keep the economy going. That's why having two refineries is so important. Because we want to keep that production of crude oil you referred to, Phil, that has got to continue, obviously, and Bass Strait is important to that, Cooper Basin as well, and so too potentially is the Beetaloo Basin. That fuel supply will be something we will continue to work on. It's crucial to these refineries and it supports our fuel security.

PRIME MINISTER: The point I’d make Phil is, as you know the G7+ is coming up and many of these other forums. And one of the most important issues we've been discussing amongst like-minded liberal democracies, market-based economies, is the security of supply chains amongst those type of countries. It was part of the discussion I had with Boris Johnson just last week and I'm sure there will be many more of those discussions in the months ahead over the course of the many international meetings. You have to have self-sufficiency here and you've got to have partners you can rely on as well and we're working both sides of that.

JOURNALIST: PM, just in terms of different types of fuel and perhaps Minister Taylor as well, what about aviation fuel in Australia? How exposed are we, how much supply would we have to even keep our jet fighters in the sky?

THE HON. ANGUS TAYLOR MP, MINISTER FOR ENERGY AND EMISSIONS REDUCTION: I mean, the good news is, Chris, at the moment, we've got more than enough aviation fuel. With what has happened with the pandemic, there's been an enormous amount of aviation fuel and the challenge has been to produce a little less, not more. But over the long term, that's also part of the minimum stock holding obligation. You’ve got to have enough aviation fuel. Defence has its own requirements and it deals with that separately. But we do need to have enough aviation fuel and the minimum stock holding obligation applies to that and these refineries produce that.

PRIME MINISTER: The defence reserve capability is also addressed elsewhere in the Budget as part of the defence IIP.

JOURNALIST: This minimum security payment [inaudible] to keep refineries going …

PRIME MINISTER: Correct.

JOURNALIST: And this payment goes up to, I believe, 2030. What happens after that? How do you know [inaudible]

PRIME MINISTER: Well look, we can't guarantee every uncertainty that's out there. What we're doing here is working together to provide that certainty over the next 9 years. And I think what we've shown as a government, is our preparedness to work with everybody to provide further security and certainty in the future. Whether it's an aluminium smelter in Portland or indeed up in Tomago, up in the Hunter and the work that was done there around energy prices which is also supporting them to remain in the market. Or indeed here, these are practical challenges and we're constantly coming up with the practical answers to those. I think today is another good demonstration of that. No doubt there will be challenges in the future and I can assure you we'll address those with the same application and I believe the same success at that time and in the lead-up to that time. Very good.

JOURNALIST: So is it correct that the Company is only committing to 2027 [inaudible]?

MATT HALLIDAY, CEO AND MANAGING DIRECTOR OF AMPOL: So the company under the packages are continuing to operate until mid-2027. And the package is funded for obviously nine years. That's a long way into the future and it will enable us to continue investing with confidence and supporting the jobs here at Lytton over that period.

JOURNALIST: Have you made a decision beyond 2027?

MATT HALLIDAY, CEO AND MANAGING DIRECTOR OF AMPOL: In the longer term we'll make those future decisions.

PRIME MINISTER: Okay. If there's no more questions on that matter, I might thank very much all of our friends from AMPOL and the AWU, thank you for being with us.

ENDS